{"id":2200,"date":"2019-12-30T17:50:26","date_gmt":"2019-12-30T23:50:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/read.streamapse.com\/?p=2200"},"modified":"2026-01-08T17:57:34","modified_gmt":"2026-01-08T22:57:34","slug":"the-wall-cemented-pink-floyds-fame-but-destroyed-the-band","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/streamapse.com\/Magazine\/?p=2200","title":{"rendered":"The Wall\u2019 Cemented Pink Floyd\u2019s Fame \u2013 But Destroyed The Band"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Forty years ago, on Nov. 30, 1979, the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd released its 11th studio album, \u201cThe Wall.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Featuring 26 tracks, two records and an opera-esque story line, the concept album would go on to become the number two bestselling double album in history. But it would also mark the last time Pink Floyd\u2019s core members \u2013 Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Nick Mason and Richard Wright \u2013 would record an album together.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Years of touring and financial stress had taken their toll. The egomania of one member, Waters, during the recording of \u201cThe Wall\u201d would be the tipping point.<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Tensions mount<\/h2>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The unchecked egos of band members can often be difficult to rein in, and often lead to acrimony \u2013 to the point where the band breakup has almost become a cliche.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Tensions between the four members of The Beatles \u2013 John Lennon and Paul McCartney, in particular \u2013 famously led to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/why-the-beatles-broke-up-113403\/\">the band\u2019s breakup in 1970<\/a>. Conflict between guitarist Johnny Marr and vocalist Morrissey <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/why-its-great-the-smiths-broke-up-117660\/\">triggered Marr\u2019s decision to leave The Smiths<\/a>. And let\u2019s not forget The Eagles, which broke up on such bad terms that drummer and vocalist Don Henley said the band would reunite \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/wcmf.radio.com\/blogs\/kane-o\/25-years-after-fact-hell-freezes-over-again\">when hell freezes over<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">By the time Pink Floyd started recording \u201cThe Wall\u201d in January 1979, tensions had been simmering for years.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/pink-floyds-dark-side-of-the-moon-10-things-you-didnt-know-201743\/\">The Dark Side of the Moon<\/a>,\u201d released in 1973, had catapulted Pink Floyd to superstardom. But the band members struggled over how to build off the success of \u201cDark Side\u201d and make another hit album.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">They had already fought among themselves when recording their follow-up albums, 1975\u2019s \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thisdayinmusic.com\/classic-albums\/pink-floyd-wish-you-were-here\/\">Wish You Were Here<\/a>\u201d and 1977\u2019s \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/consequenceofsound.net\/2017\/05\/pink-floyds-animals-pulls-no-political-punches-40-years-later\/\">Animals<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"align-center \" style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;fit=clip\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1466px) 754px, (max-width: 599px) 100vw, (min-width: 600px) 600px, 237px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=249&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 600w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=249&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1200w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=600&amp;h=249&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 1800w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=45&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=313&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=1 754w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=30&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=313&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=2 1508w, https:\/\/images.theconversation.com\/files\/304135\/original\/file-20191127-112526-19labqr.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&amp;q=15&amp;auto=format&amp;w=754&amp;h=313&amp;fit=crop&amp;dpr=3 2262w\" alt=\"\" \/><figcaption style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span class=\"caption\">From left to right: Roger Waters, Nick Mason, David Gilmour and Richard Wright.<\/span><br \/>\n<span class=\"attribution\"><a class=\"source\" href=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/4\/4d\/Pink_Floyd%2C_1971.jpg\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Roger Waters, the band\u2019s bassist and co-lead singer, took charge for \u201cWish You Were Here.\u201d He decided which tracks would appear and essentially dictated the album\u2019s conceptual themes, which included alienation, a critique of the music industry and a tribute to former bandmate Syd Barrett, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2006\/07\/12\/arts\/music\/12barrett.html\">who had left the band in 1968 due to mental health struggles<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">In the process, Waters ended up cutting the songs \u201cRaving and Drooling\u201d and \u201cGotta be Crazy\u201d against guitarist and co-vocalist David Gilmour\u2019s wishes.<br \/>\n\u201cDave was always clear that he wanted to do the other two songs,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/how-wish-you-were-here-was-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-pink-floyd\">Waters recalled<\/a>. \u201cHe never quite copped what I was talking about. But Rick did and Nicky did, and he was outvoted so we went on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Perhaps feeling suffocated by Waters, Richard Wright and David Gilmour took a stab at solo albums in 1978, with Wright releasing \u201cWet Dream\u201d and Gilmour debuting the self-titled \u201cDavid Gilmour.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Reflecting on his first solo album, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pink-floyd.org\/artint\/circus.htm\">Gilmour said<\/a>, it \u201cwas important to me in terms of self respect. At first I didn\u2019t think my name was big enough to carry it. Being in a group for so long can be a bit claustrophobic, and I needed to step out from behind Floyd\u2019s shadow.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The shadow of \u2018The Wall\u2019<\/h2>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201cThe Wall\u201d would be the band\u2019s next project \u2013 and, again, Waters asserted control.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Waters was partly inspired by an infamous incident that took place during the In the Flesh tour, which promoted the album \u201cAnimals.\u201d Annoyed by the sound of firecrackers \u2013 and feeling as if the crowd wasn\u2019t listening to their music or lyrics \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/nationalpost.com\/entertainment\/music\/planned-pink-floyd-opera-in-montreal-owes-existence-to-the-time-roger-waters-spit-on-fan-in-1977\">Waters spat on the audience<\/a>. He later mused about building a wall between him and his fans. The seed for \u201cThe Wall\u201d was planted.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">In July 1978, <a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=vkpISAAACAAJ&amp;dq=The+Making+of+Pink+Floyd+The+Wall&amp;hl=en&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiomujiyormAhVDRqwKHcCgCuYQ6AEwAXoECAEQAg\">he presented a 90-minute demo<\/a> to the rest of the band, proposing two concepts for the next album: \u201cBricks in the Wall\u201d and \u201cThe Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The band members agreed to make an album focused on the first of the two. It would be about the struggles and isolation of rock stardom, and its central character would be named Pink Floyd.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The name of the character belied the fact that this would largely be a one-man show. As musicologist Allan F. Moore <a href=\"https:\/\/www.doi.org\/10.1093\/gmo\/9781561592630.article.46254\">observed<\/a>, \u201cWaters\u2019 growing megalomania, much in evidence on \u2018The Wall,\u2019 became harder to handle.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The fact that the album\u2019s central story was semi-autobiographical, based on Waters and former band member Syd Barrett, probably didn\u2019t help matters. The motif of walls symbolized the defense mechanisms Waters had built up against those who might hurt him \u2013 parents, teachers, wives and lovers. Some lyrics deal with the death of his father, others with infidelity.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">If David Gilmour had ideas for ways to contribute to Waters\u2019 vision, they were barely incorporated. Waters did include fragments from demos associated with Gilmour\u2019s solo projects. But in the end, Gilmour only received three co-writing credits \u2013 for \u201cRun Like Hell,\u201d \u201cYoung Lust\u201d and \u201cComfortably Numb.\u201d Drummer Nick Mason and keyboardist Richard Wright didn\u2019t receive any at all.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nSpV-ExTRu8?wmode=transparent&amp;start=0\" width=\"440\" height=\"260\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><figcaption style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span class=\"caption\">\u2018Young Lust\u2019 is one of only three songs that David Gilmour received credits for.<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">On the track \u201cMother,\u201d Waters even brought in Toto drummer and session percussionist Jeff Porcaro to replace Mason. On Mason\u2019s limited drumming abilities, <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20090413165017\/http:\/\/www.classicrockmagazine.com\/news\/vintage-pink-floyd-interview-part-1\/\">Roger Waters recalled<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201cIt\u2019s got 5\/4 bars in it. Nick, to his great credit, has no pretense about that, it was clear that he could not play it. He said \u2018I can\u2019t play that.\u2019 Or maybe somebody said to him, \u2018Nick, maybe you should get somebody else to play this because you\u2019re struggling.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The aftermath<\/h2>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Today, \u201cThe Wall\u201d is considered by many <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-lists\/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-156826\/pink-floyd-the-wall-152799\/\">to be one of the best albums in rock history<\/a>. But it marked the last time the four members of the band would record an album together.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Keyboardist Richard Wright left, only to return later as a salaried sideman during Pink Floyd\u2019s tours in 1980 and 1981. Pink Floyd \u2013 minus Wright \u2013 went on to record its 1983 album, \u201cThe Final Cut.\u201d Waters eventually quit Pink Floyd in 1985 and sued members Gilmour and Mason in an attempt to stop them from using the band name, arguing that Pink Floyd was \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/entertainment-arts-24157591\">a spent force creatively<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Waters lost, and Gilmour and Mason went on to record three more albums under the name Pink Floyd: 1987\u2019s \u201cA Momentary Lapse of Reason,\u201d 1994\u2019s \u201cThe Division Bell\u201d and 2014\u2019s \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/in-pink-floyds-river-time-is-endless-33707\">The Endless River<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">None would match the critical or commercial success of \u201cThe Wall.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The making of \u201cThe Wall\u201d reflects a common experience faced by many other rock bands \u2013 how creative tension and competing visions can deteriorate relations between band members.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Luckily, Pink Floyd was able to keep it all together to record one final masterpiece.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/mark-e-perry-888078\">Mark E. Perry<\/a>, Director of Music Industry Program &amp; Assistant Professor of Musicology, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/oklahoma-state-university-2062\">Oklahoma State University<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">This article is republished from <a href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\">The Conversation<\/a> under a Creative Commons license. Read the <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/the-wall-cemented-pink-floyds-fame-but-destroyed-the-band-127174\">original article<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nd\/4.0\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Forty years ago, on Nov. 30, 1979, the English progressive rock band Pink Floyd released its 11th studio album, \u201cThe Wall.\u201d Featuring 26 tracks, two records and an opera-esque story line, the concept album would go on to become the number two bestselling double album in history. 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